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7MAIL ETIQUETTE
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9 1. About the lists
10  1.1 Mailing Lists
11  1.2 Netiquette
12  1.3 Do Not Mail a Single Individual
13  1.4 Subscription Required
14  1.5 Moderation of new posters
15  1.6 Handling trolls and spam
16  1.7 How to unsubscribe
17
18 2. Sending mail
19  2.1 Reply or New Mail
20  2.2 Reply to the List
21  2.3 Use a Sensible Subject
22  2.4 Do Not Top-Post
23  2.5 HTML is not for mails
24  2.6 Quoting
25  2.7 Digest
26  2.8 Please Tell Us How You Solved The Problem!
27
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29
301. About the lists
31
32  1.1 Mailing Lists
33
34  The mailing lists we have are all listed and described at
35  http://curl.haxx.se/mail/
36
37  Each mailing list is targeted to a specific set of users and subjects,
38  please use the one or the ones that suit you the most.
39
40  Each mailing list have hundreds up to thousands of readers, meaning that
41  each mail sent will be received and read by a very large amount of people.
42  People from various cultures, regions, religions and continents.
43
44  1.2 Netiquette
45
46  Netiquette is a common name for how to behave on the internet. Of course, in
47  each particular group and subculture there will be differences in what is
48  acceptable and what is considered good manners.
49
50  This document outlines what we in the cURL project considers to be good
51  etiquette, and primarily this focus on how to behave on and how to use our
52  mailing lists.
53
54  1.3 Do Not Mail a Single Individual
55
56  Many people send one question to one person. One person gets many mails, and
57  there is only one person who can give you a reply. The question may be
58  something that other people are also wanting to ask. These other people have
59  no way to read the reply, but to ask the one person the question. The one
60  person consequently gets overloaded with mail.
61
62  If you really want to contact an individual and perhaps pay for his or her
63  services, by all means go ahead, but if it's just another curl question,
64  take it to a suitable list instead.
65
66  1.4 Subscription Required
67
68  All curl mailing lists require that you are subscribed to allow a mail to go
69  through to all the subscribers.
70
71  If you post without being subscribed (or from a different mail address than
72  the one you are subscribed with), your mail will simply be silently
73  discarded. You have to subscribe first, then post.
74
75  The reason for this unfortunate and strict subscription policy is of course
76  to stop spam from pestering the lists.
77
78  1.5 Moderation of new posters
79
80  Several of the curl mailing lists automatically make all posts from new
81  subscribers require moderation. This means that after you've subscribed and
82  send your first mail to a list, that mail will not be let through to the
83  list until a mailing list administrator has verified that it is OK and
84  permits it to get posted.
85
86  Once a first post has been made that proves the sender is actually talking
87  about curl-related subjects, the moderation "flag" will be switched off and
88  future posts will go through without being moderated.
89
90  The reason for this moderation policy is that we do suffer from spammers who
91  actually subscribe and send spam to our lists.
92
93  1.6 Handling trolls and spam
94
95  Despite our good intentions and hard work to keep spam off the lists and to
96  maintain a friendly and positive atmosphere, there will be times when spam
97  and or trolls get through.
98
99  Troll - "someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages
100  in an online community"
101
102  Spam - "use of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited bulk
103  messages"
104
105  No matter what, we NEVER EVER respond to trolls or spammers on the list. If
106  you believe the list admin should do something particular, contact him/her
107  off-list. The subject will be taken care of as good as possible to prevent
108  repeated offenses, but responding on the list to such messages never lead to
109  anything good and only puts the light even more on the offender: which was
110  the entire purpose of it getting to the list in the first place.
111
112  Don't feed the trolls!
113
114  1.7 How to unsubscribe
115
116  You unsubscribe the same way you subscribed in the first place. You go to
117  the page for the particular mailing list you're subscribed to and you enter
118  your email address and password and press the unsubscribe button.
119
120  Also, this information is included in the headers of every mail that is sent
121  out to all curl related mailing lists and there's footer in each mail that
122  links to the "admin" page on which you can unsubscribe and change other
123  options.
124
125  You NEVER EVER email the mailing list requesting someone else to get you off
126  the list.
127
128
1292. Sending mail
130
131  2.1 Reply or New Mail
132
133  Please do not reply to an existing message as a short-cut to post a message
134  to the lists.
135
136  Many mail programs and web archivers use information within mails to keep
137  them together as "threads", as collections of posts that discuss a certain
138  subject. If you don't intend to reply on the same or similar subject, don't
139  just hit reply on an existing mail and change subject, create a new mail.
140
141  2.2 Reply to the List
142
143  When replying to a message from the list, make sure that you do "group
144  reply" or "reply to all", and not just reply to the author of the single
145  mail you reply to.
146
147  We're actively discouraging replying back to the single person by setting
148  the Reply-To: field in outgoing mails back to the mailing list address,
149  making it harder for people to mail the author only by mistake.
150
151  2.3 Use a Sensible Subject
152
153  Please use a subject of the mail that makes sense and that is related to the
154  contents of your mail. It makes it a lot easier to find your mail afterwards
155  and it makes it easier to track mail threads and topics.
156
157  2.4 Do Not Top-Post
158
159  If you reply to a message, don't use top-posting. Top-posting is when you
160  write the new text at the top of a mail and you insert the previous quoted
161  mail conversation below. It forces users to read the mail in a backwards
162  order to properly understand it.
163
164  This is why top posting is so bad:
165
166      A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read
167         text.
168      Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
169      A: Top-posting.
170      Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
171
172  Apart from the screwed up read order (especially when mixed together in a
173  thread when someone responds using the mandated bottom-posting style), it
174  also makes it impossible to quote only parts of the original mail.
175
176  When you reply to a mail. You let the mail client insert the previous mail
177  quoted. Then you put the cursor on the first line of the mail and you move
178  down through the mail, deleting all parts of the quotes that don't add
179  context for your comments. When you want to add a comment you do so, inline,
180  right after the quotes that relate to your comment. Then you continue
181  downwards again.
182
183  When most of the quotes have been removed and you've added your own words,
184  you're done!
185
186  2.5 HTML is not for mails
187
188  Please switch off those HTML encoded messages. You can mail all those funny
189  mails to your friends. We speak plain text mails.
190
191  2.6 Quoting
192
193  Quote as little as possible. Just enough to provide the context you cannot
194  leave out. A lengthy description can be found here:
195
196      http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
197
198  2.7 Digest
199
200  We allow subscribers to subscribe to the "digest" version of the mailing
201  lists. A digest is a collection of mails lumped together in one single mail.
202
203  Should you decide to reply to a mail sent out as a digest, there are two
204  things you MUST consider if you really really cannot subscribe normally
205  instead:
206
207  Cut off all mails and chatter that is not related to the mail you want to
208  reply to.
209
210  Change the subject name to something sensible and related to the subject,
211  preferably even the actual subject of the single mail you wanted to reply to
212
213  2.8 Please Tell Us How You Solved The Problem!
214
215  Many people mail questions to the list, people spend some of their time and
216  make an effort in providing good answers to these questions.
217
218  If you are the one who asks, please consider responding once more in case
219  one of the hints was what solved your problems. The guys who write answers
220  feel good to know that they provided a good answer and that you fixed the
221  problem. Far too often, the person who asked the question is never heard of
222  again, and we never get to know if he/she is gone because the problem was
223  solved or perhaps because the problem was unsolvable!
224
225  Getting the solution posted also helps other users that experience the same
226  problem(s). They get to see (possibly in the web archives) that the
227  suggested fixes actually has helped at least one person.
228
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