1I have been asked several times whether the devps patch will go into the
2mainline Linux kernel.  The following emails from Alan Cox and Linux Torvalds
3make it clear that it is not going to happen.  This does not mean this patch
4had no value -- it does.  It just means that those that like it get to apply it
5themselves...
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7 -Erik
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29Subject: Re: kernel ps drivers [Was: vm locking question]
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32In-Reply-To: <20000412224130.A2748@xmission.com> from "Erik Andersen" at Apr 12, 2000 10:41:30 PM
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44> On the subject of ps, would you be willing to accept my /dev/ps 
45> patch into the kernel?  If no, any suggestions on what should
46> be done differently (if anything) to make it worthy of inclusion?
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48For 2.2.x no, for 2.3.x ask Linus not me
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75Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT)
76From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
77To: Erik Andersen <andersen@xmission.com>
78Cc: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
79Subject: Re: kernel ps drivers [Was: vm locking question]
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90On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Erik Andersen wrote:
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92> For 2.3.x would you be willing to accept my /dev/ps driver into the kernel?
93> (Assuming I remove the /dev/modules driver (since it was pointed out that there
94> is a perfectly good syscall providing that interface).  If no, is there anything
95> that could be done differently (if anything) to make it worthy of inclusion?
96
97I do dislike /dev/ps mightily. If the problem is that /proc is too large,
98then the right solution is to just clean up /proc. Which is getting done.
99And yes, /proc will be larger than /dev/ps, but I still find that
100preferable to having two incompatible ways to do the same thing.
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102		Linus
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